Are you throwing money down the drain?

I threw away £8,000 and to make it worse, continue to throw another £2,000 away every year. Learn how to use a little known rule to protect your pension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFGJbmtMQHQ

Worked Examples

Restricted Example

Service to break 6 years, service after break 7 years.
Salary at break: £40,000.
Salary at end: £32,000.

End is LOWER than Break = Restricted

1) Break calculation: 6 years / 80 x £40,000 = £3,000 (then inflation is added, say 7 years @2%=~15%) £3,000 + 15% = £3,450.
2) End calculation: 13 years / 80 x £32,000 = £5,200
The best of these is £5,200, so that is what is received.

Unrestricted Example

Service to break 6 years, service after break 7 years.
Salary at break: £40,000.
Salary at end: £44,000.

End is HIGHER than Break = Unrestricted

1) Break calculation: 13 years / 80 x £40,000 = £6,500 (then inflation is added, say 7 years @2%=~15%) £6,500 + 15% = £7,475.
2) End calculation: 13 years / 80 x £44,000 = £7,150
The best of these is £7,475, so that is what is received.

Teachers Pensions Refusing Hypothetical Calculations

The hypothetical calculation is made every time you have a break in service and with teacher’s pay failing to keep pace with inflation for more than 10 years – and likely not to do so for quite a few more, it can easily mean that you will get a HIGHER pension than the one shown on your benefit statement. The problem is that TPS routinely REFUSE to tell you how much this calculation would give you.

One teacher I’ve been chatting with recently finally managed to get a successful conclusion by submitting a formal complaint. This is a paraphrased account of what happened:

Teacher to TPS: Please could you confirm what my pension will be based on the break in service I had in 2010

TPS to Teacher: Thank you for your secure message. I should explain that we do not provide hypothetical estimates of benefits. These calculations are only performed at retirement when a completed application for benefits has been received. I am sorry for any inconvenience this causes.

Teacher to TPS: Via complaint form

  • Nature: “How benefits are calculated”
  • Reason for complaint: “Failure to provide me with the hypothetical calculation of benefits accrued to my leaving pensionable employment in 2020 based on the break in service I had in 2010”
  • Details of complaint: “See previous secured messages requesting same.”
  • How to put right: “For TPS to provide the calculation of benefits accrued to September 2020 based on the hypothetical calculation created by my break in service in 2010.”

TPS to Teacher: Within the week a statement detailing the hypothetical calculation was provided for the teacher. The amount from this calculation was in the region of 10% higher than that he had been given previously

Lump Sum – Extra

A sheet that looks at how much extra lump sum you can get by commuting some of your pension. With a table to show the effect of taking it before your Normal Pension Age (Final Salary or Career Average Schemes)

Link to sheet

Annual Allowance Calculator

Everyone has an annual allowance, currently £60,000, (before 2024/25 it was £40,000) that can be used on their pensions. However, with defined benefit schemes like the TPS this is not the amount of money paid…it is the growth in value of the benefits. This sheet will tell you how much of the allowance has been used.

Link to sheet

Pension Details

This is the sheet I use the most when looking at an individual’s circumstances. It allows me to enter their salary profile and use it to work out their best final salary figures in a variety of scenarios.

Link to sheet

Rough CA to FS Conversion (McCloud)

The McCloud Age Discrimination result means that almost every teacher who is, or was, in both Final Salary (FS) and Career Average (CA) Pension Schemes is going to be allowed to convert their Career Average Pension back to the Final Salary Scheme that they were in. Most were moved across to this scheme in April 2015, some in the time since.
This calculator will give you a rough idea of how much will be added to their Final Salary pension if they choose to give up the Career Average pension.

Link to sheet

Early Benefits and AAB

Early Benefits and AAB All-in-one calculator.

If you take your pension before your ‘Normal Pension Age’ the benefits are actuarially reduced to take account that you will be paid them for longer…up to 10 years longer!
This sheet allows you to enter your age in years and months and see what effect it will have on your pension.
Taking benefits early means you are better off for a number of years, the sheet has tabs that also show at what age you stop being better off.
I explain more on this post: https://dfountain.co.uk/lose-20-not-true/

Link to sheet

Historical Salary to 2021 Value

Older salaries are revalued using inflation to being their value up-to-date. This sheet allows you to enter the date and corresponding salary to see what it would be worth in March 2021.
Revalued salaries are used in working out your best Final Average Salary – the best 3 consecutive years from the last 10.

Link to sheet

Lump in the throat

Could you be owed hundreds of pounds?

If you bought additional pension with a lump sum, quite possibly.

HMRC are not used to dealing with pension schemes that are NOT set up for automatic tax relief.

https://youtu.be/43nSpsANhBc

Link to spreadsheet

The relevant HMRC manual page to quote if the first person you talk to doesn’t understand this fully is the 3rd bullet point on this page:

www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/pensions-tax-manual/ptm044210

  • where a member makes gross contributions to a registered pension scheme, they can make a claim to HMRC to obtain the tax relief on the contribution. The amount of the contribution is then relieved by being deducted from the member’s total income for the tax year in which the payment is made. The deduction will be shown on the member’s Self-Assessment to give them the correct amount of tax relief. Further information on claims is at PTM044240.

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